By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. Take Crimea. This is part 3 of the Ottomans made easy EU4 guide. This will often make them take the long way around the Black Sea in wars, slowing them down considerably. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. If you can't get to them early, you may need to wait till later in the game. Meanwhile, you shouldve gotten Sicily sieged down by now. How to beat Ottomans as Poland It is 1505, I annexed Danzig, Mazovia, Lithuania as a junior partner, and Austrians as my allies. The Ottomans tend to be hard to beat around the mid game, when they build up their Jannisaries (sp?) Otto was huge though and Lithuania was getting routed, but I knew that was going to happen. Tell them not to get called into their stupid offensive wars so that youre not caught off guard. You can also take some cash from these extremely wealthy merchant republics. Focus on taking away their economic base. Europa Universalis 4 (EU4) Guide: Ottomans Made Easy Early Game, Europa Universalis 4 (EU4) Guide: Ottomans Made Easy Mid Game, 10 Europa Universalis 4 Beginner Tips for Empire Building, 9 Handy Europa Universalis 4 Cheats to Activate, Battle Crush: The New Multiplayer Battle Brawler by NCSOFT Set to Release in Late 2023, Remorse: The List 10 Xbox Keys Giveaway, 10 Games Releasing In March To Look Out For. I still had Ajam as a vassal, which gets cores on much of Iran. The Ottomans are at such a crossroads of trade routes that good trade can make them very very wealthy. Last game i played as france and struggled to fight the ottoman military, simply from the overwhelming manpower. In my game, I had a problem. You wont gain cores on them, but. Sadly its very hard because not only do they have quantity, i believe its +33% land force from ideas. A no CB to vassalize Byzantium, followed by a straightforward war with ottomans to reclaim Byzantium cores is a popular move. Ally other countries that have navies. If you wanted to hit them tech 15 infantry backed by cannons would be good, tech 16 would be better, but they get a resurgence in the value of their cav at 18-19. I'd recommend not getting too much warscore. Here is a selection of ten games releasing in March 2023 that we think you should be looking out for. You can do so by going to the diplomatic interaction screen, selecting diplomatic feedback and toggling join offensive wars off. In that war, I took Constantinople and Edirne to stop them from crossing the strait without going around. Yeah, they like doing that. To add on to this: Another good time to strike would be right after an important military tech, especially if you can grab it a few years ahead of time. Ideally, you managed to cripple the Spanish armies trapped in Morocco, so the Spanish may not put up much of a fight. Make sure to take the cities ofAdenandMasqatas soon as you can, since you need them to restore the Caliphate. When you fight with the Mamluks, make sure to expand into Saudi Arabia, towards Medina and Yemen. You can now complete the missionsControl the DanubeandConquer Transsylvania, but dont complete them just yet. The only way to stop the Ottomans is to overwhelm them on multiple fronts, since their armies are pretty much always superior to any other nations, even when massively outnumbered. It's expensive, and it hurts, but you can absolutely kill them that way. They will then continually build more troops there for you to destroy. When dealing with a large nation, core conquest is a very viable tactic. This EU4 Ottomans Guide is currently for patch 1.33.3 and with all DLCs installed. As others have mentioned, you can beat quantity with quality. I just don't find it fun to always split my armies, siege a lot of provinces and then consolidate my forces. When you attack a mountain, or a fort, or -worse- a mountain fort, you have a good chance to be defeated. If you need a repeatable method, dont annex Morocco after youre done. I've hit them several times as the PLC in my most recent games after the 1600s, they're not invincible no matter how many troops they have. All of this conquest you can do diplomatically, but dont be afraid to declare war if you want things to be a little quicker. Let's play Europa Universalis IV (EU4) as the Ottomans! Didn't require too much manpower to take them out. Although they may be weak, theyre sitting on at least one province we need to restore the Caliphate Cordoba- and they may have taken Sicily, where we need two provinces: Palermo and Messina. Meanwhile, declare war on the Mamluks to take Palestine, Transjordan, and start expanding into Arabia. I took most of the Levant, snaked my way to Medina, got some more land in the Nile Delta, and cleaned up my African borders. This might not be as helpful as all the comments but I'll just post my observations: I've noticed ai Ottomans tends to overexert themselves near late game with nonstop wars. This part is for those players who are trying to complete the Unify Islam mission, in which you unite all corners of the vast Islamic world under a single Caliphate once more. Istanbul isnt the problem (obviously), and Rome should be easy takings with your dominance in the Mediterranean. their units start to not keep up with different tech groups making them weaker. Later on, the Ottomans don't have janissaries and your units should be just as good as theirs. around 1510. When dealing with a large nation, core conquest is a very viable tactic. The QQ exploded in my case and gave birth to an independent Kurdish state, Soran. High debt and high war exhaustion means rebels which means even more trouble for them. Note: Be smart about who you declare war on. Who would win? Move your army in position and declare war to retake a Transylvanian core like Hunyad. I might be able to get France on my side too. So, feel free to jump around in this guide to have it suit your campaign. with Castille/Aragon/England or smth. After the war ends they will quickly self- destruct through rebellions and other nations invading. Before declaring war, see if there are any vassals you can annex. Congratulations on restoring the Caliphate! Getting the war goal and war score to go up, gives the chance for a good peace deal which makes them weaker and every following war with them easier. I recommend annexing any vassal that has no more foreign cores you can take. Sometimes even the mighty Ottomans get in over their head. Slowly head towards Samarkand by expanding Ajam. Eventually, they won't be able to sustain these wars as efficiently from the constant lack of manpower and they'll be taking loans for merc armies. Late game - wait until their troop strength falls below western strength. Allies are arguably the most important point. In my case, Hungary got into a war with Austria, which saw both their units occupied. needs you to core Rome, Moscow, and Istanbul. Engage when you have a clear advantage and use your massive amounts of vassals. Of note, Ottomans actually lose lucky nation status in 1700. That and Quality should give you some pretty good troops. Europa Universalis IV: Wealth of Nations Release Trailer, In case this is where you enter the series, first of all welcome! So keep picking at small stacks. . You can also take a single Croatian province to core-conquer large parts of Dalmatia. Look around Ottoman. Spain will be the toughest nut youll have to crack in this entire campaign and kind of the final boss of this EU4 Ottomans guide. Your situation might differ from mine, but I had to deal with a massive Timurids that united all of Persia. However, history wont stop us! to give yourself an edge. I played a Russia campaign a couple of weeks back, and attacked the Ottomans a lot late mid-game to late game, and I used my ally Spain to crush their armies (they easily won battles against the Ottos while being outnumbered 2:1). And actually, 173k is quite a lot for AI Ottomans in 1609, I think. The only exception to this rule would be Russia and ONLY Russia, but that's cause of just the massive amount of troops they can put out, especially with quantity, allowing them to easily overrun the Ottomans in a war, though at a massive cost. If you do that, the AI will continue building troops and go further into debt than today's Greece. If Medina still exists, you can likely vassalize them to speed up your conquest. You can beat them in the early, middle, or late game. Early to Mid-game, wait for them to go to ear with Mamluks - this typically exhausts their manpower and gives some time to move in and siege up territory before they can move their armies back from Egypt. They just can't grow to the same extent if they don't have Constantinople. If there's any blob near him, they usually have him rivaled, allowing easy alliance. Cookie Notice Aside from sealing off the Black Sea and connecting your territories, theres mostly no need for you to conquer anything north of the Caucasus mountains. Spain will be the toughest nut youll have to crack in this entire campaign and kind of the final boss of this, The Ottomans historically had issues expanding into Persia. Even if the Spanish took Ifni, you can take all the provinces in a single war. Let's play Europa Universalis IV (EU4) as the Ottomans! Siege down the fort in Malaga before swarming over the Spanish mainland. The Ottoman troops are better than European troops for a large part of the game because of their bonuses, and the fact that they have increased pips. . Like for example, if you get quality, economic, and offensive finished, that's +15% discipline. East Africa is a great target. Really, it's all about planning your idea groups to maximize the quality of your army. However, fabricate claims on Palermo and Messina to make it a lot cheaper, should you need more land. The Caucasus mountains provide a valuable defense. You can check the Ottoman's development and your own in the ledger, but a rough estimate based on experience and the dates you provided would put you at about ~500 development and the Ottomans at ~1000. You are using an out of date browser. Press J to jump to the feed. Retake all of Transylvanias cores, including Maramaros, and take the provinces in the state of Alfld. What nation are you playing as? If you are humanist support rebels in suppressive countries, if you are an absolute monarchy destroy the revolution. JavaScript is disabled. Stay at war until they lose Egypt, Syria, and Greece. They have claims on the provinces, which means that if they get the siege, you wont be able to take it in the peace deal. If you want to spice up lategame i recommend some RP. I strongly recommend keeping Oman around as a vassal for the time being theres a good chance theyll be the last nation to host the Hanbali school of thought. Build up your naval forces if you are uncertain of your navys ability, takeNaval Ideasto give yourself an edge. I took Tripoli, Jerba, Susa, and Tunis and gave everything south of that to Fezzan. After that it can become too costly and dangerous to challenge them, up until 1750, when the game triggers them to decay. Just make sure you can control your allies, and that their armies aren't so small as to be wiped instantly by the Ottoman hordes. Whereas we matched the historical Ottoman sultans in previous episodes, well one-up them in this one! Set them as a nation of interest and pay close attention to their wars. and our I am playing as Venice , Ironman, Beta 1.13 . There we have it the end of our EU4 guide, as we made the Ottomans easy! You can now complete the missions. Although you can speed up conquest by using diplomatic entanglements, wars with the Mamluks will mostly be you chipping away at them over time. Cordoba is a landlocked province, so its tricky to fabricate a claim. But it is what it is and it's still a great grand operational war game in my view. and since my goals are quite small and achievable I usually. Use them to take a lot of land for cheap, and use Russia to distract the Timurids in the north. Unfortunately not everyone is able to buy all of them. I smell a beefy QQ to their southeast, them declaring war would really shaft the Ottomans. Basically, you get some strong allies for yourself. After all, it was my first time playing this game. What can you guys suggest? After that you can trucebreak and catch their troops between you and and the rebels. Use your fleet to prevent the Spanish from landing more units in Morocco while you siege it down. Look around Ottoman. Anyone who dislikes Spain is your friend, in this case. At the time the achievement fired it was all of France and Netherlands essentially. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. One of the biggest flaws for the Ottos is that they're very spread out across three continents (most of the time) meaning they are pretty prone to splitting their forces. All rights reserved. Who are your allies? You can trap their navies and force them out to reduce their naval strength, but thats completely optional. When youre already allied, youre giving that country a diplomatic relationship slot anyhow. If you're a relatively powerful nation like PLC, Hungary, Austria, castille, etc, you can just straight up declare war and beat them before they get big. Get them to a high war exhaustion and then white peace them. Press J to jump to the feed. I just needed to buy enough time to take Tunis/Crete out of the equation. From your base in Morocco and Spain, it shouldnt be hard for you to break your alliance with France and declare war on them. quick and dirty: hudavendigar, constantinople, kocaeli (? I prefer to leave Ethiopia alone for most of the run, and simply conquer around them. I was just bribed to stop being corrupt. The entire army of Tunis or 10k expensive boys? FML. 43.9K subscribers Let's play Europa Universalis IV (EU4) as the Ottomans! Then declare (3-4 months later) and invade the opposite front. Its useful for you to take this before a rising threat, Russia, can show itself. If you call Tunis into wars but dont give them any of the lands they may want, theyll always have a truce with Fezzan, but never get to annex it. You need to win those navy encounters fast. Make sure you are not behind their mil tech level or you will be destroyed, as such it's recommended you weaken them early, They tend to pick a discipline advisor to combo with their 5% discipline tradition, recommend to get as much morale as you can, Use terrain/good generals to your advantage, Get as many good alliances as possible but never declare if they are behind the ottomans in mil tech, You can deny their cores, which is one of the main sources of their strength, You can call a crusade against them if you're the pope which can give you good bonuses. I had about 100k troops and France, Austria, Venice, and Brandenburg on my side and we all got crushed, leading me to believe the Ottomans are just naturally supposed to dominate. A few suggestions on improving existing mechanics: Yeah shipping troops around is not the most fun thing to do for me either. I easily beat them, even stack wiping them sometimes. So, feel free to jump around in this guide to have it suit your campaign. How else am I supposed to stop them if I can't use military force? You can take small coastal ports when you peace out their allies to gain an early foothold. Screenshots would be helpful, or at the bare minimum a list of your and the Ottomans' alliances, with some rough idea of their strength and position. The Ottomans will have pretty good discipline, a large manpower pool and a good economy for mercs. 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Welcome to the third and final part of this Ottomans guide for EU4: The Ottomans made easy! . Which, if any, DLC do you have? as soon as you can, since you need them to restore the Caliphate. This will deplete their manpower to zero, cause them to take out loans they can't repay and raise their WE to 20 very quickly. Call if Uzbek if you need the help. You must log in or register to reply here. Keep some stacks in Europe and the Middle-East, to combat any Spanish troops should they decide to do a naval invasion. Istanbul isnt the problem (obviously), and Rome should be easy takings with your dominance in the Mediterranean. You have expanded into what is fairly worthless, empty, lands on the steppes, whereas the Ottomans have most likely expanded into the rich cities of Anatolia and Egypt. Youll also get an achievement to show off how great youve become at EU4: theDar al-Islam. EUIV: AAR's, Let's Plays, and Fan Fiction, EU IV: Alternate History Short Story Contest Contr. You can also shoot forParisian Pasha. The mera can also gain land rights, but they have more important modifiers right now, such as the integration of nobility and stronger duchies. Is there actually a way to check to see if Janissary Decadence is fired, or do I just have to declare on them and see who gets stackwiped? Best time to hit them is in the first 50 years of the game, and the last 100 years of the game. Cav are kinda weak at techs 14 to 16, making their cav combat ability less scary (they also miss a cav upgrade at 14). I'm around the same size as the Ottomans now. At this point, you might be running into government capacity issues. As many as you can. Always check whether someone is willingly letting itself be annexed by you. Numbers don't mean a whole lot when you can't fight quality+co and offensive for a +15% discipline is good (discipline boost tactics too, so its very good). This part of the guide may look completely different from mine. I've already taken aristocratic, espionage, humanist, quality, and expansion ideas. Make your way towards the Holy Roman Empire to go there where the real-life Ottomans couldnt: Vienna. EUIV: AAR's, Let's Plays, and Fan Fiction, EU IV: Alternate History Short Story Contest Contr. If Ajam gets too big or runs out of cores, integrate them and expand with new vassals, like Fars, Khorasan, Afghanistan, and Transoxiana. So their tech 12 infantry are the same pips as western tech 15, giving you parity, until tech 19 when you can edge ahead. Spain might lend a large army in Morocco, so be wary when and where you attack. Early game there's always the classic no-CB DOW Byzantium strategy. Build strong Alliances around the Ottomans so you can call them in when they are weak. The longer you drag the war out the better. form italy (maybe with milan first cause of the sweet ideias), go quantity offensive defensive. is a province you will need to retake the Caliphate. Play your cards right, and you'll be on your way to restoring the Caliphate. You should aim to eradicate them by 1550. With my aggressive expansion pretty high in Europe, its time we shift away. The best option is to wait for the Ottomans to declare war on some other neighbor. If you're lucky, you might start a dog pile. You can try and hunt down some Ottomans-unique achievements as well. However, you might have other priorities, and Tunis gains wiggle room. Also wipe the troops they will continue building in Europe before they can coalesce into an army. Hungary, Austria, Poland) for free. When you control these cities, you gain the permanent modifierCustodian of the Holy Cities. By now, the Ottomans are a powerhouse that dominates the Middle East and the Eastern Mediterranean. I'm currently playing a commonwealth run and even dominating muscovy (they still exist but not really) and colonizing siberia, they have double the army/manpower size i do. With a strong navy you can win half the war (or more accurately, 25%, because that's what you'll get for fully blockading them). Their military modifiers will be much weaker in the late game usually. Since you cant annex vassals during the war, use your moments of peace to start the process. You can try and hunt down some Ottomans-unique achievements as well. If you gather your army in many small stacks consisting of 30k each and slowly but steadily march your way to Constantinople, Ottos will likely do the same. They dont grant permanent claims, so only do them when youre ready to attack Hungary once more. I just said in a different forum two days ago that WitE would be a much better game if Paradox had designed the UI. Its useful for you to grab important Caucasus provinces early. The Otto's will refuse that peace deal, but suffer a stability hit. Luckily for you, the AI in Eu4 is incredibly stupid, so you'll likely only face a portion of their full military at first, and this is a wonderful time to stackwipe a third of their forces. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. It's probably a bit late now anyway, once I finish my first game I'm getting a couple of the DLCs and probably not playing as Lithuania again. I knew espionage as last idea group and I figured it wasn't worth it, but wanted to try it anyway for fun. , but dont complete them just yet. Fight them after tech 14, they will no longer have pip advantage from troops. We also established footholds in Persia, Egypt, Libya, and the Caucasus, which we can use to expand further. Their military modifiers will be much weaker in the late game usually. If you manage to get to around 60% war score, then you could demand a province with a fort that you haven't occupied. The earlier you consolidate around here, the better it is for you. In my game, Austria has been beaten down and is pretty tiny, Russia is getting slowly annexed by me and the Malmuks aren't doing much. However, the coastal areas are likely up for grabs. However, always have an army ready in case you need it for war. You can assign far-flung territories to trade companies to help you bring in some extra ducats. A place to share content, ask questions and/or talk about the grand strategy game Europa Universalis IV by Paradox Development Studio. It just depends on actually winning the first war. Well I just got out of a disasterous war with the Ottomans. If I recall right, Imperator Rome has a button to let the AI manage your armies: you can order to siege forts, provinces, defend territory, etc. You deal with their numbers by stackwiping their troops with quality and composition. If you share borders, build some forts and have some battles with -1/-2 modifiers. In the previous part, we covered the remainder of the Age of Discovery and built the Ottomans from a major power to a powerhouse. Fortunately, theres a good chance these guys are allied. Build up your naval forces if you are uncertain of your navys ability, take. After youve wreaked Havoc in Arabia, Africa, and Persia, its time to confront Spain. This is especially true if the PLC and Russia blobs as they end up all hating each other. I'm around the same size as the Ottomans now, but their total units are 173k compared to my 49k. Arabia shouldnt give you any issues. The QQ exploded in my case and gave birth to an independent Kurdish state, Soran. It's a bit cheesy though. Once call for peace is sounded, you should peace out after a few months as it quickly becomes too expensive in dip to maintain. Keep a continuous Spy network on Tunis to expand faster towards the Atlantic coast. Make sure you are stable both in terms of unrest and economy and move your armies to Morocco. Everybody will then gang up on them afterwards, leading to a downward spiral. Make the war goal something I can take and defend easily; the goal is not to defeat them utterly as they have ridiculous numbers to be able to siege them out completely at first. Youre very powerful around this time, so allies might be willing to become vassals. It's the transport ships that give me headache. Watch if you can either go around it by declaring war on an ally, vassalizing the state instead, or ask it kindly to break its alliance using the Great Power status. So, currently I'm playing as Lithuania (first game and vanilla, sigh) in 1609 and I've expanded quite a bit, mainly annexing the Livonian Order, Great Horde and Crimea, as well as pushing Russia back a bit. I was playing as Byzantium and was able to defeat the ottomans with Poland Austria and Hungary in Early game so just save scum until you can beat them. From 1500 onwards, its time to fight anything, anywhere, all the time. 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